Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

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Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Hanes » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:08 pm

So being new to bowhunting i see many people hunt from hides. Now i personally have done a cull from a hide using a rifle, and found it boring, and regarded it as shooting, not hunting. Now hunting with a bow from a hide. Is it any different?
How would you rate walk and stalk with a rifle, compared to bow hunting from a hide? Which gave you a greater sense of accomplishment?
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Bernhardt » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:07 pm

When I started bowhunting I sat in hide. After taking my first animal feom hide, rifle hunting became boring to me and didn't give me any adrenalin anymore.

W&S with bow -10/10
Hide with bow - 6/10
W&S with rifle - 3/10
Bakkie with rifle - 1/10

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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby DanielX » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:38 pm

Haven't successfully walked and stalk with a bow yet.
Rifle Bakkie 2/10
Rifle walk 8/10
Bow hide 4/10 for me, got bored very quick, didn't feel like I was out there,sense of accomplishment felt greater when walked and shot with rifle, rather be walking with a rifle or bow)
Bow walk 8/10 even though I haven't killed anything, so may go up.
In terms of feelings of accomplishment.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby MrBallistic » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:35 am

Haven't done a lot of W&S but those I have and to get that close even if the shot couldn't be taken was awesome for me. I'm not exactly the smallest bloke.

W&S Bow= 10/10
Hide Bow= 6/10

The only time I would shoot with a rifle is if I hadn't eaten for a week and needed to put food in my belly. I have shot since the age of 6 and found it has no challenge. After the parliament vote I think sniper school has new interest :sniper:
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Dimitri » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:34 pm

Personally, I feel the greatest sense of accomplishment when:
1. I have had to work hard - physically - during the hunt; and/or
2. I have endured the greatest discomfort from the elements; and/or
3. The odds have been stacked against me (e.g. because of game scarcity, open terrain, etc); and/or
4. I get very close to my quarry

The more challenging the hunt the greater my sense of accomplishment.

I've achieved this great sense of accomplishment with rifle, bow, shotgun and crossbow. However, generally speaking, W&S with a bow delivers the greatest sense of accomplishment more consistently for me because it's so darned difficult.

W&S with bow = 10/10 for accomplishment 10/10 hunts
W&S with rifle = 10/10 for accomplishment 8/10 hunts
Hide = 1/10 for accomplishment
Bakkie = 1/10 for accomplishment
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Hanes » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:27 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I will be joining some friends in the hide and if all goes well may just shoot something IF i feel comfortable taking the shot. The main thing i want to see if bowhunting from a hide is appealing to me as a walk and stalk rifle hunter.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby sPRINGHAAS » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:40 am

Hanes wrote:Thanks for the feedback. I will be joining some friends in the hide and if all goes well may just shoot something IF i feel comfortable taking the shot. The main thing i want to see if bowhunting from a hide is appealing to me as a walk and stalk rifle hunter.


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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Hanes » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 am

Returned from a 3 day hut with some friends. Spent a fair amount of time in the hide. Conclusion? Not the biggest fan. Will post more detail later. But i much prefer being out there so to say..
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Bernhardt » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:27 am

Hanes wrote:Returned from a 3 day hut with some friends. Spent a fair amount of time in the hide. Conclusion? Not the biggest fan. Will post more detail later. But i much prefer being out there so to say..



Yes give us some more detail when you have time. Why did you not like it? I can take you to a farm where you will sit in the hide for 3 days and it will not be an issue, as you almost have a 180 degrees view while you sit, it doesn't feel as if you are in a hide. You dont have to stand up every 5 minutes to see if something is on its way and the hides are built that 95% of the time neither the wind or sun is a issue when you need to take a shot.

I have not been on any other farm where I could sit and see nature at its best, and because of that hide hunting is a challenge to me the last few years.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Hanes » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:52 pm

Day 1- sat in hide most of the day. Observed blue wildebeest, impala, and waterbuck . Could see in front of me and a bit to the sides, nothing behind. I was enthusiastic as i witnessed an impala being shot.
Day 2. Sat at another hide, my friends target being blue wildebeest. Eventually he got a shot, recovered 100m away. I stayed a bit longer , to see if an opportunity presents itself for a female kudu or waterbuck. Only saw a steenbok briefly.1 waterbuck wounded at another hide.
Day 3. Tried at another hide. Much better view, but sadly no kudu. 3 hours in i began wishing i was out the hide . 4 hours in,i had enough and left. Did some walking and just enjoyed the outdoors.
Am i discouraged?From bowhunting not at all. From bowhunting from a hide? Defanitely.
Sitting in hide could not compare to walking and stalking with a rifle in the hand. Being out there, the sights, terrains, various creatures big and small..My experience coming from a rifle hunter.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby MrBallistic » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:57 am

Difficulty with a hide is it is not a drive through so what is on the menu is not necessarily going to come in.
I try not go to a hide with a specific animal in mind. If it was a survival situation one would have to take what comes in. If money doesn't allow this then one has to accept it wasn't meant to be.
Don't get me wrong W&S is better but with a bow a helluva lot tougher and yes you do see more of nature but maybe not more animals within shooting distance.
A hide has it's place in hunting, great for teaching newcomers and youngsters about the shot, killzone and what shots to look for without the danger of really spooking the animal.
The choice is yours but I think if you were able to get a shot you may be singing a different tune.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby snowbeast » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:16 am

I like the idea of Walk and Stalk and as I work 15mins away from a mates farm who has a warthog problem and permits I might give it a try, he also owns a smallish game farm so it's not like I will be paying for lodging. I want to try W&S and if it's not happening I will use a hide to full my freezer up.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Bernhardt » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:11 am

Hanes wrote:Day 1- sat in hide most of the day. Observed blue wildebeest, impala, and waterbuck . Could see in front of me and a bit to the sides, nothing behind. I was enthusiastic as i witnessed an impala being shot.
Day 2. Sat at another hide, my friends target being blue wildebeest. Eventually he got a shot, recovered 100m away. I stayed a bit longer , to see if an opportunity presents itself for a female kudu or waterbuck. Only saw a steenbok briefly.1 waterbuck wounded at another hide.
Day 3. Tried at another hide. Much better view, but sadly no kudu. 3 hours in i began wishing i was out the hide . 4 hours in,i had enough and left. Did some walking and just enjoyed the outdoors.
Am i discouraged?From bowhunting not at all. From bowhunting from a hide? Defanitely.
Sitting in hide could not compare to walking and stalking with a rifle in the hand. Being out there, the sights, terrains, various creatures big and small..My experience coming from a rifle hunter.


Sorry you could not get your Kudu. I agree fully with being in nature w&s with a gun is better than hide with bow. As I said previously what gets the Adrenalin pumping for me, hide with bow is much more than rifle w&s.

The rifle to me puts you at an advantage that don't give me adrenalin. I love walking with the gun and the whole experience, but the shot is boring and most amateurs can take a shot with a gun to 150m with correct guidance.

But if someone invites me to go shoot with the gun, I will not say no as the total hunting experience is still awesome!!!!!
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby Dimitri » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:40 am

Hanes wrote:Returned from a 3 day hut with some friends. Spent a fair amount of time in the hide. Conclusion? Not the biggest fan. Will post more detail later. But i much prefer being out there so to say..


I'm with you Hanes. The hide is not for me.
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Re: Hide vs walk & stalk vs rifle

Postby bow007 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:00 pm

I normally leave the hide for my last day, if I didn't have any success with W&S... but I also prefer a more challenging experience
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